One Piece A-Edition Alpha Progress

kk, added the gap and shaded :p



@rhino:  I think I see what you mean.  Ill add another frame and see how it looks

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like this?

Looking great as usual..

@A-MAN - LOL
So... Z, whats next? Marines or polishing Law?

lol thanks XD

Uh I might finish a few more things with Luffy first.  He still has some things I'm forgetting


king haki touch up

i think he should have keep his hat down while release the haki. it make him look more serious xD

I agree with beta.
also some particles around him (and not just on the ground) would be nice. also circles of energy from his eye.

Hm tried it but I think I might keep the hat up.  You can see his face more and it give a better contrast for when he opens his eyes.

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For the effect it'll probably just be a white/grey circle that expands out of his eyes and covers the field.


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w/ effects and a few more frames

Sounds nice.
I prefer the left << one.

I prefer the original

The left one looks pretty awesomeand a little better than the right one.
So guys, you are planning to make a game with some ideas from Super Smash Bros so I gotta ask, will there be different skins? I mean like when you change the clothe's color like this? Thanks guys! I'll be here waiting for this really cool game!

Pretty awesome, I really like the last one you posted...the effects make it awesome, but can you tilt his head a little bit more at the start? He should look like a badass king while king's haki XD
And yes the left one looks badasser than right one.. (i know badasser isn't a word, don't mock me)
and yes now the whip is awesome!

@A : i know that feel bro :p

Lol fine fine, I'll do the one on the left with his hat down.  

For the color swap currently your lifebars are colored according to your team.  But in the future we'll have alternate outfits and such.


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hat down


better?

awesome work on the flail/whip Z!
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~sorry for bad eng~
Are you serious guys? The right ver. is much better...
The hat moves odd on the left one, and raising the hat makes the "wind effect" more realistic.
Plus Luffy's hair is sexy.

I prefer the left version,it's much cooler. I think Luffy always look cool whenever his hat down covering half of his eye like in Playdomano PP
btw Z you're awesome as always

Superb. I liked the one on the right more, but the majority liked the left one so yeah. Consider starting a poll next time for such stuff.

Anyway:
My final exams starts on 10th of July. I have been gradually going inactive lately as I was preparing for these, but now, it is the time to go all serious. I haven't posted any progress from my side for a while now, but when I am back I promise I will do some really cool game play video demonstrating the new elements, game play factors and maybe some combos in the game.
Also, I would really advice visiting the chat box from time to time as we're often planning and discussing about the game there; everyone is invited XD.

So, starting from 10th, I will be having 1 day exam and a one day off; 7 exams meaning 14 days+2 days for the weekend; Will be back on 26th (:\).

@Z: Who are you planning to start working on next? If you're going to do Luffy's dash, then Twin Pistol can be a good attack for that. Maybe the Bow Gun grab thing can be 2nd dash attack? (dash+special)?
Also, da gruntiez blez . A falling and an injured frames at least XP. Freaky shall code these in.

@Freaky: Please do. I know I didn't write enough tuts yet, but you can do it. Just go through Luffy or Law and you will understand how I did stuff. Good luck .

No probs, good luck with your exams XD


I do have a new injured frames done before, need new falling frames still.  

hm Bow Gun I thought would be part of a grab move.  ALso for the dash how about just keeping it the same as the jump?  Like the moveset for the air attacks would be the same with jumping or dashing.  

For twin pistol how about just making it like the quick jump?  Be AA really fast?

dorddd1 wrote:
Are you serious guys? The right ver. is much better...
The hat moves odd on the left one, and raising the hat makes the "wind effect" more realistic.
Plus Luffy's hair is sexy.

I agree with all of this XD  


ughmmm........hows this for a compromise?  I mixed the two a little and added more time and delay for the hat down, so luffy keeps that cool downhat pose longer.  Also added eye glow to make the head lift more impact too.  


22 frames


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I see all the guests lurking, just make an account already.

that looks promising man! very cool! and yeah don't worry as long as I'm here and not in my home town or something, I'll code stuff that you won't be able to!

Lol guests will stay guests..

There's sooo much progress it's overwhelming lol. That haoshoku is epic Z!!

I have a question though. Wouldn't it get way too complex to have as many moves as Luffy has already? I also think that something like mizu Luffy shouldn't even be in the game, since it was only created due to him not knowing haki. Or maybe make it so that attacks like that can be swapped out at the selection screen? Like only having one at a time.

Good luck with your exams A-Man!

i agree with Flash9tk. Mizu luffy and gomu gomu no baka should not be in the game. It will make the controls more confusing.

And yeah, good luck with your exams, A Man.

Marvelous work!!!! I LOVE IT!

Hm alright, maybe just mizu luffy as a den den mushi?  

Gomu baka could still be a taunt maybe.



This is long overdue, but Ima finish this real quick.  

Air pistol, I think it should be the same for dashing too.  But yea gonna make it combo with air stamp which will go the same direction.  Dunno if you should do air shotgun though.

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almost done

instead air shotgun, he should use whip

Its really cool you bringing back some of luffy's old move. I think One Piece A-Edition is really going to make one piece fan so happy.I really like that King haki its so cool looking and the eye nice.

Thanks XD

finished

That's awesome Z. I can already see that being the base of creating jet pistol XD

Hey, how about making it so that there are different color den den mushi that do different things? Maybe three types, just to correlate to the different types of haki, and to keep it simple.

1) Support Den Den Mushi - Already planned

2) Taunt/Special Action Den Den Mushi - Things like gum gum no baka, mizu Luffy, Zoro getting lost somehow on the battlefield.. Bartolemeo taking a pissing lol etc.

3) Dyna Rock Den Den Mushi - Maybe have it so that there's a 5-10 second count down before it appears on the stage for anyone to use, even if that person didn't get the den den mushi?

Of course this all affects game play more and more in the order that I've noted. Taunts leave you wide open and Dyna rocks are nukes It'd be interesting for some game modes.

its really good z, but could you please smoothen the part were he takes his arm back and add the effects like in the show...because it feels like something is missing, but if that messes up the gameplay then I get it

Agreed with ultimos, i also thought that when i first saw it.
as for why i didnt post anything...
laziness ._.
its not that the animation isnt good, its just no as good as everything else in the game, and would feel out of place. just a few frames in a few places should do (ill check if i can mention any other places).
found it: the legs dont flow well (the smoothness i mean), also the arm extending and coming back lack smoothness.

Yea sure I can put more at the end, I cut it short to allow time for air stamp. I think the air would just be a 2 hit combo, don't see the timing for air rifle. The legs I'm trying to find a mid point with dash and backjump since they'll both use the same animation for air pistol but I'll fix it up a little. thx for the feedback :p


The den den mushis, taunt will be a separate button input we don't need a den den mushi for that. And the dyna rock could be just a separate rare item?

Yeah that makes more sense. That's me posting while half dead lol. I can see the Dyna rocks being its own game mode. Like whoever holds it the longest will cause it to explode and win. If you die a certain amount of times then you lose. Thoughts?

I think air rifle should be its own move with the special effects from film Z. That was animated so well

So, decided I would post something .

Just wanted to say you shouldn't care when the frames are much and you want the move to finish quickly. You're animations use, A-Engine 60-FPS-wise, a delay value of 5 between every frame. In the game, we use 4 and sometimes 3 (rarely too, and once I used 1 with Jet Pistol and Jet stamp; still didn't get to use 0 lol). You get the point XD. In the pre-latest episode, Luffy used Thank You Fire against Don in a very interesting way. Maybe after this you can give Bazooka a shot so we can try having that?

Oh, and regarding the Dodging haki, we've changed the way it works. Now, its just gonna be an input which auto-dodges the enemy with some SP (and maybe some RP so people don't use it too often?). We thought it might be cooler to have all the ducks, hops and flips Luffy does; and that wouldn't be possible to do the way we have it now.

Also thought it would be cool if we can start considering the set of attacks and how the dodging Luffy should react to each. Like what attacks Luffy should duck to dodge, and what others he should back flip..etc.

Well backflip should still just be backJJ. The moves that doge and randomize would just be like a crouch, dodge left/right, and a matrix dodge maybe. The sequence with Luffy doging all teh swords thrown at him have some great poses I want to try out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PirfUJHYZxk

A-MAN wrote:So, decided I would post something .

Just wanted to say you shouldn't care when the frames are much and you want the move to finish quickly. You're animations use, A-Engine 60-FPS-wise, a delay value of 5 between every frame. In the game, we use 4 and sometimes 3 (rarely too, and once I used 1 with Jet Pistol and Jet stamp; still didn't get to use 0 lol). You get the point XD. In the pre-latest episode, Luffy used Thank You Fire against Don in a very interesting way. Maybe after this you can give Bazooka a shot so we can try having that?

Oh, and regarding the Dodging haki, we've changed the way it works. Now, its just gonna be an input which auto-dodges the enemy with some SP (and maybe some RP so people don't use it too often?). We thought it might be cooler to have all the ducks, hops and flips Luffy does; and that wouldn't be possible to do the way we have it now.

Also thought it would be cool if we can start considering the set of attacks and how the dodging Luffy should react to each. Like what attacks Luffy should duck to dodge, and what others he should back flip..etc.

Autoimput? Wow, Luffy will have a lot of them XD I like the idea, but what if you make that Luffy make Haki pressing Defend just in time when someone attack you (some other characters can have others habilities like Counter Atack, Knock Down, Paralize, Some Logia habilities...)
Some attacks should have some properties such as "Horizontal/Vertical Attack", so Luffy can "Dodge/Step Aside"

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@Z: Yea, True. So you are saying habilities like this?
Pressing Defend Just In Time=Dodge (using SP)
Pressing Defend+Back+Back=Backflip (or JJ, it quicker XD)

Some others?:
Pressing Defend+Forward+Forward=Rush (like the Naruto Storm Series)
Pressing Defend+Up+Up=QuickJump
Pressing Defend+Down+Down=Haki? (using SP, and RP?)
He can have other habilities like Defend+Forward+Back (Fuusen, Baka, some Counters like Grabs...) but that would make the game more complicated XD
Ah! the Defend button can be pressed all the time you want? or it will be for a limited time like the Original LF?

Side stepping will still be ^^ VV.

Pressing D before an attack would be an interesting mechanic. I know the DBZ budokai games do this too and it works pretty well. Having it be more timing based might be better gameplay wise so you can't just spam dodging, though the more movement based ones like backflip and quickjump should still be manual.

Yeah time based like DBZ would be awesome. All I'm worried about is how it will effect the special defenses? Tapping DD to use fusen or becoming intangible as a logia etc. You don't want the defense system to be as complex as Raging Blast lol.

First of all, this should all really go into a separate thread. Everything may get a little complex here.

Everyone who has haki should have it on regular guard (D). Character and/or devil fruit unique blocks is DD as confirmed by y'all guys Here's the discrepancy, dbz dogging would be hella epic, but that interferes with DD right? Would the inputs just be slower then? I know all characters will for the most part have different attacks speeds and ranges after playing A-Edition(plus it's One Piece lol), so the dogging would feel fresh with a huge a variety of chars. Maybe just make special blocks D+S? That way you can just time D without worrying about initiating a special block.

Never knew you could do such a thing in DBZ 0_o. I don't see how that interferes with DD either. I can "flush" the combination buffer during the haki so the key press will not have any effect after the dodging happens. Something similar and really cool was done with Metroid and few recent Nintendo 3d games:
https://youtu.be/K6Vs7Mlj8VY?t=6m46s

Not sure if we should implement a similar system though. I mean, defend will really end up useless. And I was thinking about a system where if you defend right before an opponent hit, you get to counter him somehow and maybe get an SP boost (?).

In the old DBZ games and even raging blast you can just spam the block button like DDDD, etc.... to dodge any incoming melee attack. That's why I brought that up.

I like your idea too A-Man.  The SP boost could turn the tide of battle!  Maybe make it so that you can quick dodge only melee attacks, but you have to time it so that you can dodge attacks with larger AoE and counter them? Or just do it manually Z's way. They're all good ideas

EDIT: The less complex the better since there's so much content. Not mention the clashing that will effect gameplay in it's own way too.

Getting SP boost during a successful dodge could be cool.


The SD dodge could just take up stamina to avoid people spamming it.


But should the dodge itself be locked until an attack is actually incoming? Or should you be able to just press it anytime you want manually?

Like Flash said the dodge should only work for 'smaller' attacks. Punches, bullets, but like explosions or giant pistol its better to just defend. I like the idea of a counter attack too, but it might turn out to be cheap if you can just dodge and get a free hit....

hm also stuff like like you should be able to dodge things like gattling, but shotgun is like a counter to a dodge and shoulden't be blockable with a dodge, but blockable with a normal defend.

It would be cool to dodge gatling lol. If it's locked it will take more skill to dodge sudden attacks, but if it drains stamina then I don't think it matters. There could be a flurry of projectiles or just really fast melee attacks and you most likely will end up taking some of the damage anyway after getting your SP drained. So not locked?

What if the counter is done manually like in Fight Night. Just dodge and if you have time enough to attack and land a hit, you get like unlimited SP for a few secs, or just a tiny boost.

Hm idk bout counters.  I'm not really a fan of the counter in smash bros and such, its pretty much a free hit if you dodge.  I think it'll be cool for boss battles if the boss will counter your attacks and you have to redodge the counter attacks, but for normal battles it might be cheap.  


redoing backflip into this half flip thing


edit: added slide

*original one

Agreed with Z, i think so too. also about the boss battles.
That looks really good!

almost done,



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little more bounce

any fixes/feedback guys?  Something from the lurking guests?

Looks AWESOME! I was going to ask you to reference Hero Fighter's back flips, but you really overdid them XD. Keep this up! (I always forget, what combination are we going to have for the back flip?)

Great work!
I was wondering how will the dodging system work. Is it going to be flexible and allow the player to do different types of dodges one after another?
e.g. after dooing half flip pressing "jump" will activate fussen et.
You could also add full flip after half flip to increase the distance betwhen the player and the enemies.

Thanks :p

@Aman: its Back JJ XD Same as quick jump but just with pressing back

@Mangafan: We're going to try to have some sort of chainable dodges, like you'll be able to dodge gattling and such, but we're still discussing to just how the extent it will be, otherwise people will just spam it and it'll be too hard to hit anyone.

Fusen is DD for air too, so while you're in the air of the back flip maybe you can press D to break out of it and go into air defend and then chain into balloon.

Oh cooL! How about having it << (back+back) in the crouch frames too? In hero fighter, you can do it when upon landing after recovering in the air (combination is << too). Maybe we should implement that in the game too .

Yea, having it chain out of crouch frames would be great XD  Same for the recovery frames so you can recover from lying and backflip.  


I still think it should be J<< just so its keyed to jump for consistency.   >><< is already run/turn so it might get in the way.



just shading left

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done

and backjump

Too much awesomeness in one backflip (and a slide of course ).

thanks,

getting down with the back jump

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nice jump, but isnt that distance a bit too long?

Guys, aren't you concentrating a bit 2 much on Luff?